{"id":3910,"date":"2015-05-15T00:00:40","date_gmt":"2015-05-15T04:00:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.e357.net\/beingernest\/?p=3910"},"modified":"2015-04-30T21:17:43","modified_gmt":"2015-05-01T01:17:43","slug":"daryl-gregory-on-afterparty-we-are-all-completely-fine-and-harrison-squared","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/e357.net\/beingernest\/daryl-gregory-on-afterparty-we-are-all-completely-fine-and-harrison-squared\/","title":{"rendered":"Daryl Gregory on Afterparty, We Are All Completely Fine, and Harrison Squared"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.e357.net\/beingernest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/Daryl-Gregory.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-3956\" src=\"http:\/\/www.e357.net\/beingernest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/Daryl-Gregory-201x300.jpg\" alt=\"Daryl-Gregory\" width=\"201\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a>Daryl Gregory has been cranking out some terrific fiction. He first popped onto our radar with last year&#8217;s <strong>Afterparty<\/strong>, then again with the Nebula Award nomination(<a href=\"#links\">1)<\/a> for his Novella: <strong>We Are All Completely Fine<\/strong>, which meant we had to read the prequel novel, <strong>Harrison Squared<\/strong>, that came out this March. And then, we had some questions. Fortunately, he had time to find us some answers.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SFRevu: <\/strong>Your novella,<strong> We Are All Completely Fine,<\/strong> came out in August 2014 from Tachyon, but <strong>Harrison Squared<\/strong>, its prequel, or first of its prequels, just came out in late March 2015 from Tor. Now, that doesn\u2019t seem like quite enough time to have written <strong>WAACF<\/strong>, then decide to write a novel to set it up, so how did that happen, anyway?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Daryl Gregory:<\/strong> It happened in the most complicated way possible. I wrote the first draft of <strong>Harrison Squared<\/strong> as a middle-grade adventure novel, intending to write something light and fun with as much banter as possible. My idea of light and fun, however, was out of step with middle grade editors. Several of them said that what I\u2019d written was way too scary for little kids. (I don\u2019t think this is true. I loved gruesome stuff when I was ten. But hey, that\u2019s the market.)<\/p>\n<p>I was ready to set aside the book as an experiment, but it did start me thinking about what kind of PTSD a grown-up Harrison would have to cope with. And what about all those sole survivors of horror novels and movies? Surely they needed a lot of therapy. Jacob Weisman of Tachyon had been after to me to write a novella for him, so I pitched him the idea of a therapy group made up of final girls and last men standing. He thought it was a hilarious idea. I kept trying to explain that it wasn\u2019t funny. We still argue about whether the novella is a comedy. I think we\u2019ve compromised on \u201cultra-dark comedy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.e357.net\/beingernest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/harrisonsquared.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-3862 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/www.e357.net\/beingernest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/harrisonsquared-199x300.jpg\" alt=\"harrisonsquared\" width=\"199\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/e357.net\/beingernest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/harrisonsquared-199x300.jpg 199w, https:\/\/e357.net\/beingernest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/harrisonsquared.jpg 230w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 199px) 100vw, 199px\" \/><\/a>While I was writing the novella, Tor offered to buy <strong>Harrison Squared<\/strong>, but they were interested in YA, not middle grade, and asked if I\u2019d be willing to change it. I said, if you\u2019re willing to pay me, I\u2019m interested. But this actually solved my scariness problem for me. An older protagonist, and therefore older readers, would be able to handle the creepy stuff, and allow me to spend more time with the monsters, which is always my favorite part of horror stories.<\/p>\n<p>So, as soon as I finished <strong>WAACF<\/strong>, I rewrote <strong>Harrison Squared<\/strong> from scratch, using that first draft as a kind of detailed outline that was missing some of the story. But because I now had written the adult Harrison, that changed how I wrote him as a kid. There\u2019s still a big gap between the boy he was and the man he becomes\u2014but now I know what that arc is.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.e357.net\/beingernest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/WAACF.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-3917\" src=\"http:\/\/www.e357.net\/beingernest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/WAACF-188x300.jpg\" alt=\"WAACF\" width=\"188\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/e357.net\/beingernest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/WAACF-188x300.jpg 188w, https:\/\/e357.net\/beingernest\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/WAACF.jpg 313w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 188px) 100vw, 188px\" \/><\/a>SFRevu:<\/strong> \u00a0The setting in <strong>WAACF<\/strong> is a therapy group for survivors of supernatural horror, though at the outset its members don\u2019t know that they\u2019re connected. You did an excellent job of capturing the personalities and tensions crop up in therapy. How much of yourself are you channeling here? Which is probably just beating around the bush to ask if you\u2019re as pissed off as Harrison. It\u2019s OK. This is a safe space and nobody\u2019s judging. Mostly.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Daryl:<\/strong> When you\u2019re writing this kind of ensemble piece, it\u2019s your job to put yourself in each person\u2019s shoes. So some of it comes from me, but most of it is imagination. It\u2019s acting. I start with the person\u2019s situation, and then think about how their body feels, and how they\u2019d filter the information they\u2019re getting.<\/p>\n<p>In the group scenes, I would do a sort of round-robin of mental states. A character would speak, and I\u2019d imagine how each character would respond, verbally or physically. Then you try to figure out if the point of view character in that scene would notice these reactions. Somebody who\u2019s very empathetic would pick up on many of them, but someone more oblivious &#8212; or distracted by their own issues&#8211; would miss them.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SFRevu: <\/strong>In\u00a0<strong>Harrison Squared<\/strong> the teens face a string of horrific events, but they manage to live pretty normal lives regardless, falling back on humor, some more deadpan than others, to lighten things up. Do you think teens process tragedy differently than adults?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Daryl:<\/strong> Not as much as adults might think. A teenager might not have the life experience to cope with tragedy&#8211;but many adults don\u2019t, either. I do think that adults are more aware of how they\u2019re supposed to process tragedy, but that can cause more problems than it solves.<\/p>\n<p>Anyone who\u2019s been to a funeral knows that hilarious things can happen. People crack jokes even in awful circumstances. Horror and hilarity are a hair\u2019s breadth away from each other. (That\u2019s a lot of H\u2019s.) I don\u2019t trust a novel or movie in which people don\u2019t ever laugh. That just means that the characters have not been fully imagined.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0SFRevu:\u00a0<\/strong> I gather you recently got back from your\u00a0<strong>Harrison Squared<\/strong> Tour. Any interesting experiences from the road? How did this tour differ from the one for <strong>Afterparty<\/strong>? Were the audiences as different as the book, or as similar as your themes?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Daryl:<\/strong> If something really interesting happens on tour, it\u2019s probably something horrible. I\u2019m happy to report that the trip itself was pretty low key. It was great meeting people who\u2019ve read my stuff, and really great to meet indie bookstore owners who are excited about the novel and are willing to hand-sell it to customers after I\u2019m gone.<\/p>\n<p>As for the event itself, I\u2019m just happy when anybody shows up to see me. I\u2019d rather do comedy than read from the book, so I always get to the Q&amp;A section as quickly as possible. I provide the questions. I hand them out on notecards, and then if the questions are too personal, I don\u2019t answer them.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SFRevu:<\/strong> You\u2019ve now left Harrison hanging at two different points in his life. I\u2019m sure I\u2019m not alone in wanting to find out where he goes after <strong>WAACF<\/strong>, but before he even gets there he\u2019ll have to finish up the business in Dunnsmouth you\u2019ve started him on in <strong>Harrison Squared<\/strong>. That\u2019s a lot of writing. Did you know what you were letting yourself in for?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Daryl:<\/strong> I really didn\u2019t think this through. I usually write standalone novels, and there\u2019s a certain freedom in saying everything you have to say on a subject or character, then moving on. But I have to admit I\u2019ve been a little jealous of writers like Michael Moorcock and Kim Newman who built a fictive universe, with characters they could return to at different points in their lives. Chris Roberson built an entire family tree of characters he can pull from at any time!<\/p>\n<p><strong>SFRevu:<\/strong> Since you\u2019re e no stranger to manga and comics, I\u2019m sure you\u2019ve thought about making <strong>Harrison Squared <\/strong>into a graphic novel. Any chance of that? And speaking of other media, any nibbles on a movie, or is it two soon?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Daryl:<\/strong> <strong>Harrison Squared<\/strong> might make a good graphic novel, because of the monsters. Or maybe not. Usually when I put on my comics hat, I think of different stories that depend on the visuals.<br \/>\nAs for movies, well, funny you should ask. People are always curious about movies and TV, and I always try not to get excited when something gets optioned. My standard explanation is: \u201cSomeone hands you an envelope of cash and a puppy. The puppy has a 99% chance of dying in twelve months. This is what\u2019s called a movie option.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But it looks like one of the puppies has a much better chance of living than usual. Right after you sent me these questions, the SyFy channel announced that they\u2019d gotten Wes Craven to write the script and direct the pilot for a show adapted from <strong>We Are All Completely Fine<\/strong>. I\u2019m looking forward to seeing what he does with that.<\/p>\n<p>This is the first thing that\u2019s gotten this far. Darren Aronofsky optioned my first novel, <strong>Pandemonium<\/strong>, to make into a TV show, and I would have loved to see that. An HBO producer is currently trying to create a show around <strong>Afterparty<\/strong>, but it\u2019s in the very early stages. But until one of these projects actually gets to the pilot stage, I won\u2019t grow attached to the puppies.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SFRevu:<\/strong> Taking it for granted that you\u2019ve read Lovecraft, Dracula, and other horror classics, could you tell us a bit about what you read as a young adult yourself, and some important books or authors in your life as a reader and writer?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Daryl:<\/strong> Oh, I gravitated toward the weird stuff immediately, and it never wore off. I learned to read on comics, and Stan Lee and Jack Kirby were the gods of my youth. Then I discovered science fiction. I read everything I could get my hands on, but I was particularly blown away by Roger Zelazny and Gene Wolfe. As I got older, I kept returning to the books of Philip K. Dick, and he\u2019s continued to influence my books. I included PKD as a character in my first novel, and <strong>Afterparty<\/strong> owes a lot to Valis(<a href=\"#links\">2<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><strong>SFRevu:<\/strong> Back in 1988 you attended the Clarion workshop where you wrote \u201cIn the Wheels,\u201d your first published story. Before that you taught English. Now that you\u2019ve got a lot more than one story to your credit, are you giving any writing workshops?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Daryl:<\/strong> I loved teaching high school. What I didn\u2019t love were all the administrative headaches and the long hours &#8212; I got almost no writing done in those years, and going to Clarion the summer after my first year of teaching convinced me I needed a new life plan. So, I always say yes when I\u2019m asked to teach. I\u2019ve done a few workshops, and in June I\u2019ll be teaching a day-long workshop at the Locus Awards Weekend(3). If anybody wants to see my slides and material, I post them for free up on my website(<a href=\"#links\">4<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><strong>SFRevu:<\/strong> <strong>Afterparty, <\/strong>your recent novel about a drug that supercharges the regions of the brain that give rise to a feeling of something like divine presence, was terrific. I\u2019d call it Ken Keasy meets William Gibson, with the bonus of your writing. What inspired you to write it? And here\u2019s an odd thought; what would happen if you gave the drug to a dog\u2026or even a cat?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Daryl:<\/strong> I\u2019m pretty sure my dog already thinks I\u2019m a god. If you gave the drug to a cat, they would probably imagine themselves, only larger.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019d been wanting to write a novel focused on neuroscience and pharmacology for years. Many of my short stories were about consciousness, the origin of religious feelings, and the illusion of free will, and several featured designer drugs, but I never could figure out how to make a novel-length story out of those ideas.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, I\u2019d been reading a lot of crime novels, especially the books of Lawrence Bloch and Elmore Leonard, and I wanted to write a novel with that kind of velocity. So finally I struck upon the idea of writing a crime novel about neuroscience, big pharma, and imaginary angels, and making it a \u201croad\u201d novel that moved from Toronto to New Mexico. The trick was to discuss all my favorite ideas (like the illusion of the self) while not slowing down the plot. Fortunately, on a road story, you have time for smart characters to talk to each other about this kind of thing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SFRevu:<\/strong> What are you thinking about besides Harrison and his friends? Are you making time for other works?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Daryl:<\/strong> I\u2019m working on a long novel about a family of not-very-powerful psychics. I\u2019m only halfway done, but I\u2019ll spill more details later!<\/p>\n<p><strong>SFRevu:<\/strong> <strong>WAACF<\/strong> is a Nebula Awards nominee, so is there any chance we\u2019ll see you in Chicago this June?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Daryl:<\/strong> I\u2019ll be there with bells on. Chicago\u2019s my home town, and every time I cross the Illinois state line I start salivating for Italian beef sandwiches and stuffed pizza.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SFRevu:<\/strong> We&#8217;re looking forward to that. Thanks for all the great answers, and best wishes on the Nebula.<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"links\"><\/a><strong>Links \/ References<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>SFWA; 2014 Nebula Awards Nominees; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sfwa.org\/2015\/02\/2014-nebula-awards-nominees-announced\/\">http:\/\/www.sfwa.org\/2015\/02\/2014-nebula-awards-nominees-announced\/<\/a><\/li>\n<li>WIkipedia; Valis by Philip K. Dick; <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/VALIS\">http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/VALIS<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Locus Online; Locus Awards Weekend; <a href=\"http:\/\/locusmag.com\/Magazine\/2015LocusAwardsAd.html\">http:\/\/locusmag.com\/Magazine\/2015LocusAwardsAd.html<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Daryl Gregory&#8217;s Website: <a href=\"http:\/\/darylgregory.com\/\">http:\/\/darylgregory.com\/<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Daryl Gregory has been cranking out some terrific fiction. 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